美国白癫风基金会网站（有译文）

rank5 · 发表于 2006-8-13 14:11:42

regnancy made my vit go away????</td></tr><tr><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereplydiv" valign="top" align="left" colspan="2" height="1%"><img height="1" src="http://www.vitiligosupport.org/forums/images/shim.gif" width="1" border="0" alt=""/></td></tr><tr><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereply" valign="middle" align="left" height="1%"><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%" border="0"><tbody><tr><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereply" valign="middle" align="left" width="90%" height="1%">Wednesday August 9, 2006 6:35 AM 标题: 怀孕使bb自愈?</td><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereply" valign="middle" nowrap="nowrap" align="right" width="10%" height="1%"><a href="http://www.vitiligosupport.org/forums/discussions.cfm?process=postreply&forumid=1&topicid=147447&messageid=147447"><img alt="REPLY" src="http://www.vitiligosupport.org/forums/images/icons/default/reply-reply.gif" border="0"/></a></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereplydiv" valign="top" align="left" colspan="2" height="1%"><img height="1" src="http://www.vitiligosupport.org/forums/images/shim.gif" width="1" border="0" alt=""/></td></tr><tr><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereply" valign="top" align="left" colspan="2" height="1%"><img height="8" src="http://www.vitiligosupport.org/forums/images/shim.gif" width="1" border="0" alt=""/></td></tr><tr><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereply" valign="top" align="left" colspan="2" height="100%">I just had a baby 5 months ago and during my pregnancy I noticed that the spots on my legs started to freckle. Is it possible that the extra hormones in my body during my pregnancy made my vit go away?我5个月前生一宝宝. 怀孕期间我注意到腿上的bb开始长色素斑. 是不是怀孕期间我体内多出的荷尔蒙使bb好转呢?Congratulations! Yes, pregnancy hormones can make vit go either way. You're one of the lucky ones that it helped. (回帖)祝贺! 是的, 怀孕荷尔蒙可以使bb向好或坏的方向发展. 你是幸运的因为它帮你康复了. Thanks girls!! I am so happy being a mom. This is the best thing that ever happened to me!!!谢谢大家回帖! 我很高兴成为一个母亲. 这是我最高兴的事. Yes I was taking prenatal vitamins during my pregnancy. Now I am taking One a Day multivitamins. I wonder if that is helping my vit go away too...because I never took vitamins before! Hmmmm.....确实我怀孕期间服用了"孕前维他命". 现在则每天服用复方维他命. 我想知道这是否帮助我的bb好转, 我以前从没有服用过维他命. I have had vit since I was 23. I am now 32. It started as a small spot on the side of my face by my eye. Now it covers most of my face and I have a couple of spots on my legs. But thankfully I am pale so it doesn't show up unless I get a tan...which I make sure I don't!我23岁有bb, 现在32. 开始时长在眼睛旁边, 是个小点. 现在bb覆盖了脸的大部, 我腿上也有2块. 还好我比较白所以只要我不晒黑一般不会太显眼.</td></tr></tbody></table>

rank5 · 发表于 2006-8-13 14:58:10

<table height="100%" cellspacing="2" cellpadding="0" width="98%" align="center" border="0"><tbody><tr><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereply" valign="top" align="left" colspan="2" height="1%">MY HANDS REPIGMENT!!!!</td></tr><tr><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereplydiv" valign="top" align="left" colspan="2" height="1%"><img height="1" alt="" src="http://www.vitiligosupport.org/forums/images/shim.gif" width="1" border="0"/></td></tr><tr><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereply" valign="middle" align="left" height="1%"><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%" border="0"><tbody><tr><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereply" valign="middle" align="left" width="90%" height="1%">Sunday September 4, 2005 9:03 PM 标题: 我的手在康复!!!</td><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereply" valign="middle" nowrap="nowrap" align="right" width="10%" height="1%"><a href="http://www.vitiligosupport.org/forums/discussions.cfm?process=postreply&forumid=1&topicid=127756&messageid=127756"><img alt="REPLY" src="http://www.vitiligosupport.org/forums/images/icons/default/reply-reply.gif" border="0"/></a></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereplydiv" valign="top" align="left" colspan="2" height="1%"><img height="1" alt="" src="http://www.vitiligosupport.org/forums/images/shim.gif" width="1" border="0"/></td></tr><tr><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereply" valign="top" align="left" colspan="2" height="1%"><img height="8" alt="" src="http://www.vitiligosupport.org/forums/images/shim.gif" width="1" border="0"/></td></tr><tr><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereply" valign="top" align="left" colspan="2" height="100%">Hi! On the recommandations of my chimist,because i had no energy,I try a new multivitamint "CENTRUM PERFORMANCE" and after 3 weeks ,MY HANDS ARE REPIGMENTING!!! 我体质较弱, 在医师建议下, 尝试一种新的复方维他命, "CENTRUM PERFORMANCE"(商品名), 3周后手上见色素生成!!! I have many littles freekles and now,after 5 weeks,it continue!长了很多小色素斑, 现在在继续! I am very happy and i stop Protopic that i was putting around my mouth for see if it repigmente there also. 我很高兴, 停用了遮盖剂, 看看我嘴角的bb长色素没有. On my stomach,a little white path is gone ! 我肚皮上一条小的bb带已经没有了! I was putting sunscreen on my hands but now,i do not put it for see if sun can help! 我以前在手上涂防晒用品, 现在不涂了, 看看阳光能不能有所帮助. I am sure that this multivitamin repigment my hands because i DID'NT PUT ANYTHING ELSE ON MY HANDS for cure! 我肯定是这个复方维他命使我的手上bb康复, 因为我没有使用其它任何药品 译者补充: 经查询, 文中提到的维他命产品中文名称是"善存维他命", 是一种比较有名的美国产的药品.</td></tr></tbody></table>

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一生何妨 · 发表于 2006-8-13 22:39:44

好象在哪里也看到说吃２１世纪金维他ＢＢ没有再发展而且有长好的趋势，应该说体内还是应该营养均衡比较好，忌口真的很难，哎，对了，鲜葡萄能吃吗[em04]

万家灯火 · 发表于 2006-8-14 17:44:57

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder">以下是引用一生何妨在2006-8-13 22:39:44的发言： 好象在哪里也看到说吃２１世纪金维他ＢＢ没有再发展而且有长好的趋势，应该说体内还是应该营养均衡比较好，忌口真的很难，哎，对了，鲜葡萄能吃吗[em04]</div>我也听说过，真的有使用效果好的。我也去买。别忘了回复我，我也期待快快痊愈。

万家灯火 · 发表于 2006-8-14 17:48:54

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder">以下是引用rank5在2006-8-13 14:58:10的发言： <table height="100%" cellspacing="2" cellpadding="0" width="98%" align="center" border="0"><tbody><tr><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereply" valign="top" align="left" colspan="2" height="1%">MY HANDS REPIGMENT!!!!</td></tr><tr><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereplydiv" valign="top" align="left" colspan="2" height="1%"><img height="1" alt="" src="http://www.vitiligosupport.org/forums/images/shim.gif" width="1" border="0"/></td></tr><tr><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereply" valign="middle" align="left" height="1%"><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%" border="0"><tbody><tr><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereply" valign="middle" align="left" width="90%" height="1%">Sunday September 4, 2005 9:03 PM 标题: 我的手在康复!!!</td><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereply" valign="middle" nowrap="nowrap" align="right" width="10%" height="1%"><a href="http://www.vitiligosupport.org/forums/discussions.cfm?process=postreply&forumid=1&topicid=127756&messageid=127756"><img alt="REPLY" src="http://www.vitiligosupport.org/forums/images/icons/default/reply-reply.gif" border="0"/></a></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereplydiv" valign="top" align="left" colspan="2" height="1%"><img height="1" alt="" src="http://www.vitiligosupport.org/forums/images/shim.gif" width="1" border="0"/></td></tr><tr><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereply" valign="top" align="left" colspan="2" height="1%"><img height="8" alt="" src="http://www.vitiligosupport.org/forums/images/shim.gif" width="1" border="0"/></td></tr><tr><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereply" valign="top" align="left" colspan="2" height="100%">Hi! On the recommandations of my chimist,because i had no energy,I try a new multivitamint "CENTRUM PERFORMANCE" and after 3 weeks ,MY HANDS ARE REPIGMENTING!!! 我体质较弱, 在医师建议下, 尝试一种新的复方维他命, "CENTRUM PERFORMANCE"(商品名), 3周后手上见色素生成!!! I have many littles freekles and now,after 5 weeks,it continue!长了很多小色素斑, 现在在继续! I am very happy and i stop Protopic that i was putting around my mouth for see if it repigmente there also. 我很高兴, 停用了遮盖剂, 看看我嘴角的bb长色素没有. On my stomach,a little white path is gone ! 我肚皮上一条小的bb带已经没有了! I was putting sunscreen on my hands but now,i do not put it for see if sun can help! 我以前在手上涂防晒用品, 现在不涂了, 看看阳光能不能有所帮助. I am sure that this multivitamin repigment my hands because i DID'NT PUT ANYTHING ELSE ON MY HANDS for cure! 我肯定是这个复方维他命使我的手上bb康复, 因为我没有使用其它任何药品 译者补充: 经查询, 文中提到的维他命产品中文名称是"善存维他命", 是一种比较有名的美国产的药品.</td></tr></tbody></table> </div>维生素真的很有用吗，有知道的说一下啊。我记得有的医院就补充这些，吃的、打的都有。

rank5 · 发表于 2006-8-14 20:56:50

今天又仔细看了那个吃维生素病情好转的帖子后面的跟帖情况是这样的, 有不少人说他们服用了维生素"善存"之后确实看到了正面的效果而且时间都是2,3个星期之内, 有快的人说一个多星期就看出来了但是请大家注意, 也有个别人跟帖说吃了善存之后有反面的现象出现, 比如bb加重, 原来的治疗效果被抵消, 等等, 然后他们就停用了这个药此外很多人服用的是善存以外的全面型维生素, 效果也可以请大家谨慎选择, 大胆尝试

rank5 · 发表于 2006-8-14 20:58:57

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder">以下是引用一生何妨在2006-8-13 22:39:44的发言： 好象在哪里也看到说吃２１世纪金维他ＢＢ没有再发展而且有长好的趋势，应该说体内还是应该营养均衡比较好，忌口真的很难，哎，对了，鲜葡萄能吃吗[em04]</div>鲜葡萄好像很不是东西, 对咱们来说坦率地说, 即使现在有个医生跟我说, 你吃鲜葡萄吧, 不会有事的我还是不会碰个人见解.

海大王 · 发表于 2006-8-15 10:33:37

向版主致敬!我想服用21世纪金维他会有用的，我也再吃.同时,加一些提高免疫力的保健品如蜂胶等也会有好处的,我现在恢复得情况也比较乐观。

rank5 · 发表于 2006-8-15 13:56:48

楼上的意思是, 光服用这些营养品就可以缓慢恢复, 还是在辅以药物治疗? 谢谢

rank5 · 发表于 2006-8-15 13:59:48

今天在基金会的网页上又看到一个有价值的帖关于饮茶的多数人发帖表示听说了或亲自体验到绿茶对bb没有好处, 甚至有反面作用据说绿茶含柠檬酸等成分, 对bb不好那个帖中, 没有人说绿茶导致bb好转的.大家参考.

万家灯火 · 发表于 2006-8-15 17:08:49

海大王真恭喜你。我也会越来越重视饮食的。

rank5 · 发表于 2006-8-17 10:11:57

rotopic working wonders on my face普特皮在我脸上起效</td></tr><tr><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereplydiv" valign="top" align="left" colspan="2" height="1%"><img height="1" alt="" src="http://www.vitiligosupport.org/forums/images/shim.gif" width="1" border="0"/></td></tr><tr><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereply" valign="middle" align="left" height="1%"><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%" border="0"><tbody><tr><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereply" valign="middle" align="left" width="90%" height="1%">Monday April 10, 2006 5:12 PM </td><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereply" valign="middle" nowrap="nowrap" align="right" width="10%" height="1%"><a href="http://www.vitiligosupport.org/forums/discussions.cfm?process=postreply&forumid=34&topicid=138819&messageid=138819"><img alt="REPLY" src="http://www.vitiligosupport.org/forums/images/icons/default/reply-reply.gif" border="0"/></a></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereplydiv" valign="top" align="left" colspan="2" height="1%"><img height="1" alt="" src="http://www.vitiligosupport.org/forums/images/shim.gif" width="1" border="0"/></td></tr><tr><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereply" valign="top" align="left" colspan="2" height="1%"><img height="8" alt="" src="http://www.vitiligosupport.org/forums/images/shim.gif" width="1" border="0"/></td></tr><tr><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereply" valign="top" align="left" colspan="2" height="100%">I was having some success with repigmentation from vitamins, green tea and PUVA treatments, except on my face. It was very frustrating, since I've been told the face is the easiest area to repigment. After speaking with my derm, she prescribed Protopic, which I previously used on my arms and legs and had so-so results with. Part of the problem in the past was that applying Protopic was very time-consuming and greasy, so I would skip days if I didn't have time. After deciding to apply it just on my face, I could stick to a twice-a-day regiment, and after about 2 months I have repigmented about 40% on my face, and still continuing. 我使用维他命,绿茶和UVA照射, 取得了一些疗效, 有一些色素生成. 但脸上效果不好, 很烦恼. 尽管人家告诉我脸上是最容易恢复的. 我的医生推荐了普特皮. 我以前在胳膊和腿上用过普特皮, 效果一般, 原因可能是普特皮涂起来很耗时间所以我经常没空涂. 这次开始在脸上使用后, 我严格地每天2次涂药, 大约2月后我恢复了40%, 仍在恢复中. Thanks, Laurie</td></tr></tbody></table>

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rank5 · 发表于 2006-8-17 10:15:53

<table height="100%" cellspacing="2" cellpadding="0" width="98%" align="center" border="0"><tbody><tr><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereply" valign="top" align="left" colspan="2" height="1%">Vitligo and Food</td></tr><tr><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereplydiv" valign="top" align="left" colspan="2" height="1%"><img height="1" alt="" src="http://www.vitiligosupport.org/forums/images/shim.gif" width="1" border="0"/></td></tr><tr><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereply" valign="middle" align="left" height="1%"><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%" border="0"><tbody><tr><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereply" valign="middle" align="left" width="90%" height="1%">Wednesday September 21, 2005 9:03 AM </td><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereply" valign="middle" nowrap="nowrap" align="right" width="10%" height="1%"><a href="http://www.vitiligosupport.org/forums/discussions.cfm?process=postreply&forumid=34&topicid=129155&messageid=129155"><img alt="REPLY" src="http://www.vitiligosupport.org/forums/images/icons/default/reply-reply.gif" border="0"/></a></td></tr></tbody></table>标题: bb和食品</td></tr><tr><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereplydiv" valign="top" align="left" colspan="2" height="1%"><img height="1" alt="" src="http://www.vitiligosupport.org/forums/images/shim.gif" width="1" border="0"/></td></tr><tr><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereply" valign="top" align="left" colspan="2" height="1%"><img height="8" alt="" src="http://www.vitiligosupport.org/forums/images/shim.gif" width="1" border="0"/></td></tr><tr><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereply" valign="top" align="left" colspan="2" height="100%">Hi Fellows, I've had vitiligo recently about 3 months back just on my face and its spreading. I searched alot on the internet and also consulted different doctors. I found out as it was discussed in some vitiligo forums that coffee and chicken can progress vitiligo so we should prohibit eating them as much as we can. But doctors said itsnot a food related disease . So if anybodie knows regarding this stuff plez convey your thoughts . I just want to know what kinda foods can progress vitiligo and what kinda foods are helpful to get repigmentation. It would be really informative and benefical for all of Us. 大意: 听说咖啡和鸡会使病情恶化. 但医生又说这是个跟食物没什么关联的病.请问什么食物对bb不好, 什么食物有助于bb恢复 Thanks Alot</td></tr><tr><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereply" valign="top" align="left" colspan="2" height="1%"><img height="8" alt="" src="http://www.vitiligosupport.org/forums/images/shim.gif" width="1" border="0"/></td></tr></tbody></table>Hi Bassam, I've wondered about the food-Vitiligo connection also. I found one fellow, Dr. Ben Kim, who claims that fasting stopped progression of his Vitiligo. I've written to him and he was nice enough to respond in a prompt manner. Here's his web page: http://drbenkim.com/staff.html 我听说一个人介绍他自己的bb受到控制的情况, 网址是http://drbenkim.com/staff.html The only connection I can make between food and Vitiligo is this. It seems that certain Anti-inflammatory medication (such as Elidel which I use) helps halt and repigment affected areas. Perhaps eating food that limits an anti-inflammatory response would help? i'm sure you can find that on the web. 好像Elidel之类的药品会有助于控制病情, 恢复色素. The other point i'd make is this: my vitiligo corresponded with my liver functions going crazy. I was diagnosed with "fatty liver". This was caused by eating a lot of junk food, processed foods, fats, etc. The correlation between what I eat, mental stress, and depigmentaion seems to be strong in my case. I can literally point to periods of high stress (down to the day), bad eating due to stress (apparently I use food as a stress reliever) and the appearance of Vitiligo. 我以前是由于垃圾食品和加工食品食用太多, 精神压力太大, 所以对bb很不好. My overall advice: check your liver functions, switch to a vegetarian diet for a while, and consume a lot of antioxidents (blueberries, broccoli, etc in addition to vitamins). My experience has been that solutions are highly individualized if it exists. 总的意见: 检查和调整你的生活方式, 有机会多吃蔬菜, 多吃抗氧化物质多的东西. 具体方案跟各人有关. Kace

.S. It peeves me when Dr's say it isn't a food related disease and then in the next sentence tell you they have no idea what causes it. While food may not be the primary cause, can it be a contributing factor? You won't know till you try. Since we don't know the actual source of the disease, we have to rely on anecdotel evidence then experiment on ourselves to see if it works由于bb的病因不明, 跟食物的联系没有明确说法. 所以除了亲身体会, 无法知道食物跟bb的利害关系.What you said was that people that have bad diets normally have vitiligo, and that's not true. Nor is it true that vitiligo is a fungus that feeds on sugar. Vitiligo is an autoimmune disease that is often genetically based. You probably have vitiligo because you inherited the tendency from your mother, not because you ate sugar and carbs. 有关食谱杂乱的人容易得bb的说法也没有道理. bb是基因性质的病, 你是继承了某些基因才得, 并不是你吃得不合理.I'm glad that you feel healthier when you eat well, but there are many other people here that also eat well and still have vitiligo. There are also many, many people that don't eat well and/or have a sweet tooth that do not have vitiligo. 需要指出, 很多吃得很好的人也bb. 很多吃得混乱的人却没有bb. Cindy

.S. My point was not that people with vit are obese, but that if it were true that bad diets caused vit it would affect much more of the population than it does. There is much talk these days about an "epidemic" of obesity due to poor diets and not enough exercise. If your point were true, they would be talking about an "epidemic" of vitiligo as well.又, 如果bb的原因是饮食问题, 那么bb显然会发生在更多的人身上, 因为饮食有问题的人太多了just over a year ago i too started seeing someone in beverly hills and she had me go completly natural and carb free. i was tring to heal up gut issues as well as this vit. after about six months with no meat, dairy, sugar(natural or processed), certain kinds of nuts, and no caffine, and drank nothing but water, i did indeed feel soooooo much better. in fact better than i ever even felt a a kid! i lost weight, my skin got smooth and soft, woke up in the mornings feeling refreshed (even though i sleep about 3 1/2-5 hours a night) my mood lifted and my stomach problem vanished. i was a new person, for real. but my discouragement came from the fact that that my vit spread faster than it ever had in the 15 years i have had it. 我尝试过食物疗法. 一段时间内几乎忌口所有食物, 除了喝水. 我感觉到整个人都获得了新生, 肠胃的毛病也好了. 但是遗憾的是我的bb却扩散了, 比以前任何时候都好. i am a firm believer that our diets and the polluted world we are living in is a huge factor to all the ailments that people seem to have. i dont recall people feeling so crappy all the time back in the day. i could be wrong though. my point is that diet alone didnt do a thing for my vit. i would hate to say that the strict diet made it worse but for me i saw far from a difference. i am currently trying to get back on that kinda diet just because it feels so good to be clean on the inside. 我坚信饮食和环境污染对bb有很大作用. 但是我不认为单单饮食就造成bb.

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rank5 · 发表于 2006-8-17 10:17:12

Ok, what I see in this thread is exactly what happened to me when I was first diagnosed with Vit. I freaked out and if someone would've told me that standing on my head and spitting bb's was a good idea I would've done it and advocated for it over and over again. Here's what I've learned in having Vit for 5 years now (along with 2 other autoimmune diseases since age 11). First of all, Vit is an autoimmune disease and when you have one autoimmune disease you're suceptible to all of them. Now, don't wig and start thinking that you're going to come down with every other disease under the sun. You're not. But chances are, if you have one, you could get another one. I started with Hashimoto's Disease (thyroid disorder, that like 1/2 the people on this site probably have) at age 11. At 16, I was diagnosed with Palindromic Rheumatism (very rare and I don't know another soul that has it). Got Vit when I was 27. I'm 32 now and I've pretty much stopped all the stuff I was doing that repigmented 85% (or so) of what I originally lost. When I first came to this site 5 years ago, people were saying don't eat onions. I eat onions probably everyday and my vit has only slightly changed in the past few years and I can almost assure you it's not from the onions I eat. I was taking aver 30 vitamins a day to the tune of hundreds of dollars a month. I ate organic only for about a year. I used Protopic. Sat in the sun for short periods of time. Did Jaffe-Mellor treatements. Body detox using a Bio-Cleanse machine. Did Emotional Freedom Therapy. There's no doubt that much of it worked. Here's what I know today: There's no way in heck that I could keep all that stuff going. First of all, it was too expensive. Second, it CONSUMED my life. It got ridiculous. It affected my quality of life. It was a drag, to be honest. What I know is that my vit spoke to me in a way that my other autoimmune diseases didn't. Vit made me take notice of my body and of my health. I just take the time now to listen and see what's going on with me. I think the root cause of my vit was my inability to take care of me--physically, mental and spiritually. Getting vit changed my life forever, but I live a normal life and I still eat McDonald's on occasion. What do I do now? I live. I have a good attitude. I love explaining to people what the spots are--if they even notice them. In other words, after a while, I just got over it. I know I may sound cynical, but there's a whole lot more going on in my life other than vitiligo and I'm going to choose to focus on all that other good stuff. NOW, when it comes to diet. There is some evidence out that that folks w/ autoimmune problems do/can suffer from digestive issues. I know I did and sometimes still do. Lots of folks w/ autoimmune issues experience bloating and gas, and other digestive issues. I would say that we may not process food well, therefore, we might not be soaking up vitamins and minerals as well as we should. Am I a doctor? No. I just know what happened/happens to me. Live. That's my best advice to you. Just live. Eat a little sugar. Eat some veggies. Don't get overwhelmed by what everyone suggests. Follow your gut. Listen to your own body. It often tells us what we need to do if we're willing to listen. Shannon<table height="100%" cellspacing="2" cellpadding="0" width="98%" align="center" border="0"><tbody><tr><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereply" valign="top" align="left" colspan="2" height="100%">I am not a doctor but I belive that food/diet has a real connection to Vitiligo. In my case, stress has caused me to have a pretty poor diet over the last number of years and my Vitiligo, which has been relatively stable has now affected a new area on my right hand. I notice that when I eat right I feel better anyway. It can be a chicken and egg problem, do I have a poor diet because of stress or does stress cause me to have a poor diet? Neither helps the situation. I have seen that wheat, spicy foods, alcohol and some other foods make my skin break out and when I do not eat that stuff, my skin is clear. I was interested to see that someone mentioned chicken as a possible culprit. I'm going to eliminate that for a while. I also think that antibiotics play a role. Not long before I first noticed the Vitiligo on my face I had been hospitalized to receive introveneous antibiotics for an infection I sustained followng minor surgery. I have a mitral valve prolapse, so I have to be premedicated for certain procedures, including dental work. I recently had surgery for which I had to be premedicated with introvenous antibiotics. Just before the original onset, I had sun exposure which was not my usual MO and went through some traumatic events. My Vitilgo has just started spreading again. I am also considering stopping dying my hair. While people search for a medical "cure," I think that I'm going to try a vegetarian diet and make sure to get enough exercise, rest, folic acid, B-12 and other things I've just read about as possible aids in stopping or helping the condition. Am interested in hearing about others' successes. Thanks.</td></tr><tr><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereply" valign="top" align="left" colspan="2" height="1%"><img height="8" src="http://www.vitiligosupport.org/forums/images/shim.gif" width="1" border="0" alt=""/></td></tr></tbody></table>After seeing all the arguments about food vs. genetics and ect ect let me state the obvious that it is most likely a combination. I personally believe in the biological concept of aquired characteristics and if you believe in genetics, then you should also. It states that certain tendencies over generations maybe predispose people to having certain characteristics. For example someone said their mom used to eat lots of sweets and maybe there is a correlation between that and her vit and his vit as well. I know many of my more recent ancestors eat too many sweets and my gma even has diebetes. Maybe that unhealthy sweet diet over generations are highly attributed to the prevalence of vit. The concept of acquired characteristsics isn't necessarily a bad concept however. For example, eating healthy foods could make it's appeareance in one's genetics to dissipate. Or another example is that if you come from a line of bodybuilders or ppl who do balancing acts you have a higher probability of gaining success in these areas. It's so funny how people would just say it's because genetics and not understand how DNA is constantly going through a never ending process of change. I also heard some comments on the modernization of the world and i do feel this has some positive correlation with vit. I have been to remote villages in india, highly industrialized area, and am quite well traveled around the entire world and it does seem as tho more people in more industrialized areas suffer from vitligo. Just my opinion. I have even seen research claiming that those with vitiligo are at a much lesser risk of getting cancer. (Hopefuly something will come up if you do a search) I have had many recent ancestors pass from cancer and even my mom was diagnosed with breast cancer. Maybe, just maybe this is a genetic mutation where melanin and who knows what else matrixed along with it is altered in order to compensate and redistribute energy to more vital body fucntioning. it could be some next step in evolution of health. we could be the real x-men.. ya? ya? .. whose with me.... lol I know these two parents with vit whose two daughters are both fine. I'm not trying to prove anything by saying that, but it is interesting to note this, and i'd want to see studies done on their health and others who have vit, and their prevalence of more serious diseases in their more immediate families. It is a possibility and not too far fetched in my opinion that there could be a greater big picture to just pigment dissapearing for no good reason at all. The conscious body is capable of more things than science will ever find out. At least in our lifetime. The greatest scientists admit they are in the dark about the majority of happenings and that they make "rules" of science that can many a times be broken down at some level. This is especially the case with DNA and genetics where recent so called "junk" DNA, which far surpasses how much "normal DNA" we have turns out to actually have some significance..... geee you don't say

rank5 · 发表于 2006-8-17 10:17:29

<table height="100%" cellspacing="2" cellpadding="0" width="98%" align="center" border="0"><tbody><tr><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereply" valign="top" align="left" colspan="2" height="1%">Great Results taking Recouleur Vitamins!</td></tr><tr><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereplydiv" valign="top" align="left" colspan="2" height="1%"><img height="1" alt="" src="http://www.vitiligosupport.org/forums/images/shim.gif" width="1" border="0"/></td></tr><tr><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereply" valign="middle" align="left" height="1%"><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%" border="0"><tbody><tr><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereply" valign="middle" align="left" width="90%" height="1%">Saturday October 8, 2005 8:38 PM 服用Recouleur维他命的良好效果</td><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereply" valign="middle" nowrap="nowrap" align="right" width="10%" height="1%"><a href="http://www.vitiligosupport.org/forums/discussions.cfm?process=postreply&forumid=34&topicid=130237&messageid=130237"><img alt="REPLY" src="http://www.vitiligosupport.org/forums/images/icons/default/reply-reply.gif" border="0"/></a></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereplydiv" valign="top" align="left" colspan="2" height="1%"><img height="1" alt="" src="http://www.vitiligosupport.org/forums/images/shim.gif" width="1" border="0"/></td></tr><tr><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereply" valign="top" align="left" colspan="2" height="1%"><img height="8" alt="" src="http://www.vitiligosupport.org/forums/images/shim.gif" width="1" border="0"/></td></tr><tr><td class="forumsdiscussionspagereply" valign="top" align="left" colspan="2" height="100%">I have had vitiligo for almost 30 years (I'm now 39 years old). It started on my knees and feet, and over time spread to my hands, face and underarms. I was going twice a week for PUVA light treatments with poor results. I read about Recouleur Vitamins, and thought it was worth a try. Within a week my vitiligo began to repigment. I still continue with PUVA treatments which have excelerated the repigment process. And because they are vitamins, I also have more energy. Their website is recouleur.com, and hopefully other people will experience the same great results. I've been taking the vitamins for about 3 months now, and continue to repigment. 我bb30年了. 开始在膝盖和脚上. 后来到手上脸上腋下. 我曾经照射PUVA, 收效甚微. 我听说了Recouleur维他命, 认为值得一试. 1周内我的bb开始有色素生成. 我继续PUVA照射, 这加速了色素的生成. 我已经服用3个月了, 色素一直不断生成. Laurie M</td></tr></tbody></table>

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